I'LL ADMIT I love reading comments unless my spider senses tell me they're going to be acting weird down there. Like if the piece is even mildly personal I don't look lol. I feel like the key is that with most places with active commenting sections, the people in there are actually there to chat with each other and your article is just kind of the excuse. So they'll talk about it but they're also just there to hang and you and your article are weirdly unimportant even though this page is in theory dedicated to them.
I go back and forth about clapping back at critics… I kind of feel like it would be better for The Culture if people were more willing to get into it, but it's terrible for somebody's dignity. This kind of faux naive "wow!!!" though is the worst of both worlds.
Yeah I do think actual critical debates would be fun, and on the rare occasion people seem inclined to actually go back and forth, that makes for great reading (and escalating) of what art can / could be. I feel like mostly it devolves into like, "critics are jealous they can't be artists" which snooze.
Occasionally I will read comments on other people's articles though, which is a fun way to see that the NYT audience hates Oh Mary for "punching down at a mentally ill woman" (right...) and to get a temperature check on the cursed new HBO Harry Potter adaptation (everyone hates it but no one can land on the same reason why).
donald sutherland in p&p is literally everything to me… i always manage to keep myself locked down and simply smiling through most of the end of the movie UNTIL he begins weeping at lizzy telling him everything darcy did. and then i start sobbing and don’t stop until the movie is over. i love u p&p 2005
I only just learned this week about the different British and US endings........ whereas the British one just closes out with Donald smiling in his chair... to me that is a way better ending than the smooches which is literally reheating A Room with a View's nachos.
Yes, Sutherland is a reason to vote for that version of all the P&Ps…but as far as Darcy, getting Tom from Succesion as Darcy in that 05 movie is too far below what Colin Firth does in the 1995 6 hr version of P&P, even if the BBC gratuitously added the dreamy wet look Firth scene that’s *not in the book. P&P needed 6 hours….Lonesome Dove is a longer book, thankfully the CBS TV team didn’t try to make it a 2 hour film…Just sayin.
Tennis dude is writing as if Pitchfork is a professor and he’s trying to bump an A to an A+. People continue to have strange conspiratorial mindsets about Pitchfork specifically, as if it is some cabal that runs the industry instead of a collection of nerds at laptops.
My one friend and I are doing all the Leighs so we just watched Secrets and Lies and will be watching Topsy-Turvy tonight, speaking of G&S. Despite being a real life theater doer I check out of the Tonys because I haven’t seen the shows, but it seems like they made good choices and I’m happy for everyone there.
The best new movie I’ve seen recently, which has been receiving extremely blah reception from basically everyone I know, is The Legend of Ochi. I loved it- surprisingly gnarly for a PG rated movie and very moving. No idea what a kid would make of what the movie is actually about which is this broken family that can’t really fix itself with any easy answers.
omg have fun watching Topsy-Turvy... for a movie that is three hours long it is kind of the most fun you can have.
When Legend of Ochi premiered at Sundance everyone was like, wait this thing is pretty good...! I am definitely curious about it - now that I am niece-pilled I am saving a ton of PG movies to watch with her at some point. Maybe too gnarly for her at this age but she has proven herself brave enough for a lot of Ghibli stuff!
Speaking of Pride and Prejudice — has enough ink been spilled about how goddamn funny Tom Hollander is? His love of boiled potatoes? The rectory that abuts Lady Catherine’s estate?
I’m a big fan of spaghetti — cento tomatoes, mushrooms, and my mother in law has taught me to use ground Italian sausage as the meat. I grew up thinking spaghetti sucked because it was one of three things my sisters ate and my mom always used Prego meat sauce with no additional meat seasoning. The first time someone cooked me spaghetti from scratch I thought, “marry this person.” And I did.
Tom Hollander can elevate just about anything but when he’s firing on cylinders — boy oh boy, hang on for the ride. Sometimes I wonder about investing in Britbox or whatever so I can be kept afloat of whatever he’s up to.
i think anna k is a better movie than p&p. there are fits and spurts of the latter that go on a little long, while anna k is just punch after punch. the premise of “what if p&p were real life and historically accurate” is a better premise than “anna k… aristocracy’s a performance” etc but i think because of that more heart and soul is put into anna k taking place in a theater than in “keira knightley’s hair is dirty this is REAL.” of course they are both perfect movies but i just feel the need to really talk anna k up because it’s prob my fav adaptation of anything ever and no one has even frickin seen it
I have the opposite sense where I do think Anna K gets a little long in parts of the second act, but 99/100 times I need to put something on, I'm putting on Anna K and laughing and clapping and smiling. Macfadyen MUSTACHE Aaron Taylor Johnson BLONDE Keira GOWN Emerald Fennell THERE FOR SOME REASON! Seeing that in theaters was one of the more revelatory moviegoing experiences of my life (fall 2012 was awesome in my memory... we also had Cloud Atlas and Skyfall and the Perks of being a Wallflower, jk on last one). No one would be half as gaga for Macfadyen in Succession had he not high status moron in Anna K first. There's a template!!! It is a great adaptation in that it cares just enough about the source material to work but Wright is a madman enough to go a little zany with it. I'm told his Mussolini miniseries (lmao) starring Martin Eden from Martin Eden (YES!) that came out earlier this year in the UK is excellent and VERY in the Anna K vein but has no US release planned/due. I NEED to see this thing though.
i mean i also just like anna k more because there’s more reason to LAUGH. MM best perhaps when he’s an asshole also. don’t forget who’s also there for a minute: CARA DELEVINGNE.
Chipotle, Fran oh no! I have no clue why their food, focused on organic ingredients (I think? Still?) goes right through me. Secondly, I love my roommates’ kittens like they were my own, and I pretty much never stop worrying about them, especially when I babysit. Lastly, Tennis is a husband and wife duo! I liked their songs back in my college days. Maybe Alaina is especially peeved because this is their last album before they retire. They are heading back on that sailboat that they live on part time! But I agree, even when the artist has valid points, “clapping back” at a music critic never really looks good. This is reminding me that I was upset by the same critic’s review of the Halsey album last year. It’s a great album that I can hardly listen to because it’s so devastating.
Tennis is a couple 😭🙏🏻 I think I remember them having some controversy when I was in college... I kind of remember the sailboat of it all. I like that Halsey album too!!
down in a state with Chipotle food poisoning was how I watched the 28-3 Patriots/Falcons Super Bowl. haven't ever been back there, both because of the food and the karmic sporting implications
I think about Natasha, Pierre and their comet so often :( I only got to see it once but even 10 times would not have been enough! (Also Fran Magazine I became a subscriber specifically to thank you for recommending/writing about JADE. Yes!!! I am ready to make JADE happen!!!)
They were actually doing Natasha, Pierre in London when I was there back in January, though with a much more stripped down set and no interaction with the audience which... I don't think it needs the crazy decadent Broadway set, but I do think the interactivenes of it all was a huge part of the appeal, like, we really are all in War & Peace together!! God, what a show. 10 times truly would not have been enough. and YES it is about to be JADE SUMMER!
Comet is my DREAM show to either direct or conduct and I can basically retire once I get to do that (retire from my many community theater and semi-professional theater gigs, not my day job which is not in theater). It doesn't need the set but it absolutely needs actor-musicians. I applied to direct it in college (not that we were going to get the rights anyway) and you had to write a single paragraph about your creative influences/other works of art you were inspired by and I wrote 3 pages about The Piano and Holy Smoke... oops the other college students did not want to read that
I came to NYC to see Malloy's new show and it was worth every penny- a lot of plot you miss from the soundtrack but some unmistakably beautiful songs on there if you haven't listened
I was so sad to miss the latest Malloy - bad timing last year and I just never got around to it. But I am ready w my finger on the pulse for next one!!
I like Tennis a little bit. very unsurprised based on the type of music they make that they'd try to respond to a critic. putting the odds that "WB Sebald" is Brady Corbet Batman music at like +130
currently on one of the most majestic theater-going experiences of my life: Hard Eight, Vertigo, Heat, The English Patient (and I watched Code Unknown on CriChan earlier this week -- masterpiece). honestly looking forward to taking a night off from movies cause those four have taken so much out of me lol. Boogie Nights on Thursday though :) received some great news today, which is that the Pride & Prejudice party IS in fact coming to Auckland next month, and I will be seated.
omg hooray I'm so glad it's coming to Auckland!!! They're doing some PTA re-releases here this summer ahead of OBAA - I'd like to see Inherent Vice especially again on the big screen.
Welcome back, glad you’ve righted your ship…your comments about today about Sutherland prompts my question: did Fran Magazine publish a tribute/overview to DS upon his death in summer 2024? I know you’ve seen a zillion and one movies, & well qualified to bring DS in the Fran lens…& your lens on a great movie career of Gene Hackman would be cool to read in Fran Mag . Readers here matzoh/ may not be familiar with his career, but it’s one of America’s greats…he came from an era of DeNiro & Pacino & Hoffman who could play a supporting role as well as leading man. And everyone who chooses to watch the TV adaptation of Lonesome Dove & the brilliant acting by Robert Duval…well, Duval too belongs in that same group of actors who came along ready to play anything…many people here wouldn’t know Hackman from The Conversation in 74, but prob know him his playing Royal Tenenbaum (a movie he allegedly fought on set all the time w director Wes Andersen)…
No tribute or overview for either DS or GH - two wonderful actors I have a lot of affection for! Usually I let people who are bigger, more devout fans take those and I save my breath for my tried and true favorites, else I'd be writing a memorial every month I feel.
I also feel like I consented to food poisoning this week because my partner and I moved apartments (from Edgewater to Rogers Park, a 1-bed to a 2-bed, winning) and when we finished at 10pm we got a medium 12" pan pizza from Pequod's in Lincoln Park with spinich, garlic, and green olives (iykyk) and also a pint of Phish Food, and I ate both of these things and then got immediately horizontal on my bed.... and I shot up at 2am with some of the worst heartburn I have ever had. Worth it!!!!
OH IK!!!! Olives on pizza >>>> There was some viral tweet going around about someone who helped their friend move and the friend got a just black olives pizza and everyone was like fuck that and I was like ... wait... that pizza looks so good (ideally a pizza has more than one topping beyond olives but I am not saying no to a cheese and black olive pizza, are you kidding). One of my friend's drunk pizza orders always stuck with me: jalapeño and extra cheese.
Congrats on the move btw!! I had two diff apartments in Edgewater (Ardmore & Winthrop and then Berwyn & Winthrop... I love Winthrop) and I love that part of Chicago. My fav lil spot in Rogers Park is Sauce & Bread Kitchen!!
jalapeño and extra cheese.... the human brain is a wonder....
thank you for the rec need to check out that spot!!! We just moved from Ardmore and Kenmore actually. I do love Winthrop (pronounced WINN-thrup) and the whole edgewater/RP area is a great place to enter your 30s because your neighbors are adults but still like to have fun and go to the beach! :)
What I neglected to mention is that movie-watching has also been thrown off by the NBA playoffs, in which I am rooting for the Denver Nuggets.
I'LL ADMIT I love reading comments unless my spider senses tell me they're going to be acting weird down there. Like if the piece is even mildly personal I don't look lol. I feel like the key is that with most places with active commenting sections, the people in there are actually there to chat with each other and your article is just kind of the excuse. So they'll talk about it but they're also just there to hang and you and your article are weirdly unimportant even though this page is in theory dedicated to them.
I go back and forth about clapping back at critics… I kind of feel like it would be better for The Culture if people were more willing to get into it, but it's terrible for somebody's dignity. This kind of faux naive "wow!!!" though is the worst of both worlds.
Yeah I do think actual critical debates would be fun, and on the rare occasion people seem inclined to actually go back and forth, that makes for great reading (and escalating) of what art can / could be. I feel like mostly it devolves into like, "critics are jealous they can't be artists" which snooze.
Occasionally I will read comments on other people's articles though, which is a fun way to see that the NYT audience hates Oh Mary for "punching down at a mentally ill woman" (right...) and to get a temperature check on the cursed new HBO Harry Potter adaptation (everyone hates it but no one can land on the same reason why).
sincere lol
also incredibly unrelated but i think i'm a slugging convert… my results were not dramatic but i noticed when i forgot to do it for a week.
i keep rereading the slugging post and can’t figure out how to do it. i identify as slugging challenged
I do a video tutorial for you
donald sutherland in p&p is literally everything to me… i always manage to keep myself locked down and simply smiling through most of the end of the movie UNTIL he begins weeping at lizzy telling him everything darcy did. and then i start sobbing and don’t stop until the movie is over. i love u p&p 2005
I only just learned this week about the different British and US endings........ whereas the British one just closes out with Donald smiling in his chair... to me that is a way better ending than the smooches which is literally reheating A Room with a View's nachos.
Yes, Sutherland is a reason to vote for that version of all the P&Ps…but as far as Darcy, getting Tom from Succesion as Darcy in that 05 movie is too far below what Colin Firth does in the 1995 6 hr version of P&P, even if the BBC gratuitously added the dreamy wet look Firth scene that’s *not in the book. P&P needed 6 hours….Lonesome Dove is a longer book, thankfully the CBS TV team didn’t try to make it a 2 hour film…Just sayin.
Tennis dude is writing as if Pitchfork is a professor and he’s trying to bump an A to an A+. People continue to have strange conspiratorial mindsets about Pitchfork specifically, as if it is some cabal that runs the industry instead of a collection of nerds at laptops.
100p AGREE
Oh shit I need to go buy Lonesome Dove.
My one friend and I are doing all the Leighs so we just watched Secrets and Lies and will be watching Topsy-Turvy tonight, speaking of G&S. Despite being a real life theater doer I check out of the Tonys because I haven’t seen the shows, but it seems like they made good choices and I’m happy for everyone there.
The best new movie I’ve seen recently, which has been receiving extremely blah reception from basically everyone I know, is The Legend of Ochi. I loved it- surprisingly gnarly for a PG rated movie and very moving. No idea what a kid would make of what the movie is actually about which is this broken family that can’t really fix itself with any easy answers.
omg have fun watching Topsy-Turvy... for a movie that is three hours long it is kind of the most fun you can have.
When Legend of Ochi premiered at Sundance everyone was like, wait this thing is pretty good...! I am definitely curious about it - now that I am niece-pilled I am saving a ton of PG movies to watch with her at some point. Maybe too gnarly for her at this age but she has proven herself brave enough for a lot of Ghibli stuff!
Speaking of Pride and Prejudice — has enough ink been spilled about how goddamn funny Tom Hollander is? His love of boiled potatoes? The rectory that abuts Lady Catherine’s estate?
I’m a big fan of spaghetti — cento tomatoes, mushrooms, and my mother in law has taught me to use ground Italian sausage as the meat. I grew up thinking spaghetti sucked because it was one of three things my sisters ate and my mom always used Prego meat sauce with no additional meat seasoning. The first time someone cooked me spaghetti from scratch I thought, “marry this person.” And I did.
Tom Hollander can elevate just about anything but when he’s firing on cylinders — boy oh boy, hang on for the ride. Sometimes I wonder about investing in Britbox or whatever so I can be kept afloat of whatever he’s up to.
And omg spaghetti love 😭😭
i think anna k is a better movie than p&p. there are fits and spurts of the latter that go on a little long, while anna k is just punch after punch. the premise of “what if p&p were real life and historically accurate” is a better premise than “anna k… aristocracy’s a performance” etc but i think because of that more heart and soul is put into anna k taking place in a theater than in “keira knightley’s hair is dirty this is REAL.” of course they are both perfect movies but i just feel the need to really talk anna k up because it’s prob my fav adaptation of anything ever and no one has even frickin seen it
I have the opposite sense where I do think Anna K gets a little long in parts of the second act, but 99/100 times I need to put something on, I'm putting on Anna K and laughing and clapping and smiling. Macfadyen MUSTACHE Aaron Taylor Johnson BLONDE Keira GOWN Emerald Fennell THERE FOR SOME REASON! Seeing that in theaters was one of the more revelatory moviegoing experiences of my life (fall 2012 was awesome in my memory... we also had Cloud Atlas and Skyfall and the Perks of being a Wallflower, jk on last one). No one would be half as gaga for Macfadyen in Succession had he not high status moron in Anna K first. There's a template!!! It is a great adaptation in that it cares just enough about the source material to work but Wright is a madman enough to go a little zany with it. I'm told his Mussolini miniseries (lmao) starring Martin Eden from Martin Eden (YES!) that came out earlier this year in the UK is excellent and VERY in the Anna K vein but has no US release planned/due. I NEED to see this thing though.
OK OK OK OK I'm rewatching Anna K this week... !!
i mean i also just like anna k more because there’s more reason to LAUGH. MM best perhaps when he’s an asshole also. don’t forget who’s also there for a minute: CARA DELEVINGNE.
i hunger for evil martin eden show 🙏
Cara Delevingne: she played Sally Bowles last year!!!
Chipotle, Fran oh no! I have no clue why their food, focused on organic ingredients (I think? Still?) goes right through me. Secondly, I love my roommates’ kittens like they were my own, and I pretty much never stop worrying about them, especially when I babysit. Lastly, Tennis is a husband and wife duo! I liked their songs back in my college days. Maybe Alaina is especially peeved because this is their last album before they retire. They are heading back on that sailboat that they live on part time! But I agree, even when the artist has valid points, “clapping back” at a music critic never really looks good. This is reminding me that I was upset by the same critic’s review of the Halsey album last year. It’s a great album that I can hardly listen to because it’s so devastating.
Tennis is a couple 😭🙏🏻 I think I remember them having some controversy when I was in college... I kind of remember the sailboat of it all. I like that Halsey album too!!
down in a state with Chipotle food poisoning was how I watched the 28-3 Patriots/Falcons Super Bowl. haven't ever been back there, both because of the food and the karmic sporting implications
I think about Natasha, Pierre and their comet so often :( I only got to see it once but even 10 times would not have been enough! (Also Fran Magazine I became a subscriber specifically to thank you for recommending/writing about JADE. Yes!!! I am ready to make JADE happen!!!)
They were actually doing Natasha, Pierre in London when I was there back in January, though with a much more stripped down set and no interaction with the audience which... I don't think it needs the crazy decadent Broadway set, but I do think the interactivenes of it all was a huge part of the appeal, like, we really are all in War & Peace together!! God, what a show. 10 times truly would not have been enough. and YES it is about to be JADE SUMMER!
Comet is my DREAM show to either direct or conduct and I can basically retire once I get to do that (retire from my many community theater and semi-professional theater gigs, not my day job which is not in theater). It doesn't need the set but it absolutely needs actor-musicians. I applied to direct it in college (not that we were going to get the rights anyway) and you had to write a single paragraph about your creative influences/other works of art you were inspired by and I wrote 3 pages about The Piano and Holy Smoke... oops the other college students did not want to read that
I came to NYC to see Malloy's new show and it was worth every penny- a lot of plot you miss from the soundtrack but some unmistakably beautiful songs on there if you haven't listened
I was so sad to miss the latest Malloy - bad timing last year and I just never got around to it. But I am ready w my finger on the pulse for next one!!
Fran!! thank you 🫶 and adding The Stalker to my list….though tbh im on page 370 of lonesome dove and am already dreading my post-LD life…
I like Tennis a little bit. very unsurprised based on the type of music they make that they'd try to respond to a critic. putting the odds that "WB Sebald" is Brady Corbet Batman music at like +130
currently on one of the most majestic theater-going experiences of my life: Hard Eight, Vertigo, Heat, The English Patient (and I watched Code Unknown on CriChan earlier this week -- masterpiece). honestly looking forward to taking a night off from movies cause those four have taken so much out of me lol. Boogie Nights on Thursday though :) received some great news today, which is that the Pride & Prejudice party IS in fact coming to Auckland next month, and I will be seated.
omg hooray I'm so glad it's coming to Auckland!!! They're doing some PTA re-releases here this summer ahead of OBAA - I'd like to see Inherent Vice especially again on the big screen.
I find I miss Brady Corbet...
Welcome back, glad you’ve righted your ship…your comments about today about Sutherland prompts my question: did Fran Magazine publish a tribute/overview to DS upon his death in summer 2024? I know you’ve seen a zillion and one movies, & well qualified to bring DS in the Fran lens…& your lens on a great movie career of Gene Hackman would be cool to read in Fran Mag . Readers here matzoh/ may not be familiar with his career, but it’s one of America’s greats…he came from an era of DeNiro & Pacino & Hoffman who could play a supporting role as well as leading man. And everyone who chooses to watch the TV adaptation of Lonesome Dove & the brilliant acting by Robert Duval…well, Duval too belongs in that same group of actors who came along ready to play anything…many people here wouldn’t know Hackman from The Conversation in 74, but prob know him his playing Royal Tenenbaum (a movie he allegedly fought on set all the time w director Wes Andersen)…
No tribute or overview for either DS or GH - two wonderful actors I have a lot of affection for! Usually I let people who are bigger, more devout fans take those and I save my breath for my tried and true favorites, else I'd be writing a memorial every month I feel.
ok good to know about kyo, i’ve been so curious. ty for the lena shout 🫶
we love lena!
Strawberry Matcha Latte Summer!
THIS. I also go crazy for the La Colombe Strawberry Oat Latte lmao :(
we should go to boop
This
I also feel like I consented to food poisoning this week because my partner and I moved apartments (from Edgewater to Rogers Park, a 1-bed to a 2-bed, winning) and when we finished at 10pm we got a medium 12" pan pizza from Pequod's in Lincoln Park with spinich, garlic, and green olives (iykyk) and also a pint of Phish Food, and I ate both of these things and then got immediately horizontal on my bed.... and I shot up at 2am with some of the worst heartburn I have ever had. Worth it!!!!
OH IK!!!! Olives on pizza >>>> There was some viral tweet going around about someone who helped their friend move and the friend got a just black olives pizza and everyone was like fuck that and I was like ... wait... that pizza looks so good (ideally a pizza has more than one topping beyond olives but I am not saying no to a cheese and black olive pizza, are you kidding). One of my friend's drunk pizza orders always stuck with me: jalapeño and extra cheese.
Congrats on the move btw!! I had two diff apartments in Edgewater (Ardmore & Winthrop and then Berwyn & Winthrop... I love Winthrop) and I love that part of Chicago. My fav lil spot in Rogers Park is Sauce & Bread Kitchen!!
jalapeño and extra cheese.... the human brain is a wonder....
thank you for the rec need to check out that spot!!! We just moved from Ardmore and Kenmore actually. I do love Winthrop (pronounced WINN-thrup) and the whole edgewater/RP area is a great place to enter your 30s because your neighbors are adults but still like to have fun and go to the beach! :)
Living mere blocks away from Hollywood Beach was real Zac Efron in We Are Your Friends "are we ever gonna be better than this" hours